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! >> eric: yes, the dreaded fiscal cliff. tax hike, spending cut and sequestion ration, whatever they are. belly flop the economy at once. comfortabling the know that d.c. is on top of it all. alex simpson, former senator and the guy that everyone thinks is a lifeguard at the fiscal pool. ♪ ♪ >> eric: okay, beckel is gangnam style. good to know we're in good hands but get serious, folks. >> any word from karl rove? >> despite what we're telling you, it's over. romney lost. >> i guess it's time i explain, the good people, the upcoming fiscal cliff. >> the economy is the car and rich sman a driver. don't give the driver many. they will drive you over a cliff. just common sense. >> eric: not exactly. the only way to save the republic is for us to let the president go off the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up. but mandatory spending cuts get enacted. that seems to be the only way dems will cut a dime. let's save the place for the kids. do you agree? >> greg: i do. >> bob: i think you're crazy. >> greg: funny that bob and i agree but for different reasons. fiscal cliff is a horrible med fore.
-called fiscal cliff if taxes are not raised. >> the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no prospects in agreement that doesn't involve the raise going up on the top 2 percent. >> house speaker bane another a boehner and president obama have been talking by phone. not much progress was made. boehner says if he doesn't agree with the propose sal he has obligation to submit one of his own. >> the missing girl battling leukemia is safe and is being treated in new mexico. she was taken out of a hospital in phoenix. her mother took her. doctors are worried she could potentially get a deadly infection. the girl's father claims the hospital was to blame for a different infection which cost emily her right arm. he's refusing to tell police where she is in mexico. both parents could face criminal charges. >> shock, disgust and fear spread quickly on the campus of the university of -- one details the exact moment they realty lied they were in a major crisis. it reads subject emergency the shooter at the aurora mall last night was james holmes i am worried a
taxes on the rich, they were going to go over the fiscal cliff. but at the end of the day, if we do fall over the fiscal cliff, if taxes go december 31st, will the republican party be blamed? >> absolutely. right now, people aren't convinced that either the president or congressional republicans are serious about negotiating. but they're a lot more willing to believe that the president is negotiating in good faith. >> and let me ask you. is the republican party therefore becoming the party of the rich, defending the top tax brackets, and is obama becoming the party of the middle class? >> absolutely. and larry, the reason the republicans are in this fix right now is because they think these discussions and negotiations are about deficit reduction. president obama thinks they're about fairness. most americans, solid majority, want to see taxes raised on those upper income americans, even though only 19% think it will have much of an impact on deficits. it's not about the fiscal crisis. it's about fairness in the minds of most americans. president obama understands that and republicans don
the leverage because he knows if it goes over the fiscal cliff, tax cuts expires and he'll never let the top 2% get that tax cut reinstated. if they do what you suggested, vote the tax cut, continue it for the 98%, then the leverage switches to them come the time of the debt limit. they might be able to make a deal where they save some of it so it doesn't go up to 39%. maybe goes up to 37.5%. maybe they do the buffett rule and only raise rates on people making $500,000. they have a little room to leverage but right now they have zero leverage, zero. >> do you agree with that? i don't know if i agree with that. it's hard once the rates go back to 39.6 or whatever they go to, to go back and say, now we to want cut taxes for the rich. what's the reason to do it? the republican party says we have to stop the government, stop paying our debts, don't pay our bills anymore because we have to help out the rich now. that would be the worst situation to be in. >> as the conversation shifts really to the bottom line in the deficit. at the end of the day the whole thing is about -- it's optical illusions
to continue the tax cuts for the 98% now and therefore avoid the fiscal cliff and put off for now the top 2%. and the question then, let the debt ceiling not take effect. a tax cut delayed i argue is a tax cut avoided. joining me with the republican defense highly tauted fan of the eagles, ed rendell and alex wagner of msnbc's "now." governor, i want you to read what's going on here. first speaker boehner defended the gop's tax proposal saying it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes. but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't se
over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't give in on higher taxes for the wealthy. a little bit of trade data out of the uk. i didn't have a forecast for this. adjusted global goods trade deficit 9.5 billion. september unrevised. forecast here forecast at 8.65, so that is a wide deficit than forecast. adjusted 4.5 billion. sterling not reacting huge amount. european stocks today are firmer. up 0.4% for the ftse. xetra dax continues its strong momentum, we are trading at 52 week highs and up now about 27% for the year. bond markets which is where we stand with yields, spanish ten year yields slightly lower, but we were 5.2% beginning of the week was the handle. currency markets, not huge changes. euro-dollar just below 1.31, dollar-yen 82.44. euro trading, though, at a fresh day high it must be said. we have comments coming out of china on the smartphone segment. apple's rang in china smartphone market which will become the world's biggest this year down to number six in the third quarter. facing tougher competition from chinese brands. this is the research firm idc coming out wi
before that so- called fiscal cliff. that's the package of tax increases for most americans and budget cuts that will hit automatically unless the white house and congress find a gentler way to solve the crisis in the federal budget. here's how treasury secretary tim geithner put it on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> pelley: by top 2%, he means individuals making more than $200,000 and couples taking in $250,000 or more. republicans say rates shouldn't be increased on anyone. with no agreement, going over the fiscal cliff would be painful. the automatic tax increases break down like this: households making $20,000 to $40,000 would see an increase in $1,200 a year. incomes of $40,000 to $64,000 would see taxes rise $2,000 and in the $64,000 to $108,000 bracket taxes go up $3,500 a year. mr. obama and the republican speaker of the house talked this over today and here's major garrett
issues in general when it comes to the fiscal cliff. if you have questions about tax issues or comments about how taxes should be included in these discussions, he will be taking your calls. up next, we're going to have a look at republicans and the fiscal cliff negotiations with radio talk-show host and columnist armstong williams. that is coming up next as we continue the "washington journal." ♪ >> why a writers institute? i think it is very important within the culture. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are key to our imagination, our capacity to envision things. we ourselves are not completely tied to print on the page. but i think that there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps -- but it is something -- there is something in literature that captures the humans. . >> this weekend, we look behind the scenes at the history and literary life of new york's capital city, albany, on c-span to and it c-span3. span3.c- [bell rings] >> this weekend on c-span3, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to hiroshima. >> everybody has their own view of what happ
administration is ready to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't bid on higher taxes. a poll shows nearly half of those ads say it's time to end talks cuts for the wealthy but keep it in place for americans earning $250,000 or less. 32% say the tax cuts should remain in place for everyone. during a broadcast interview yesterday timothy geithner was asked what if republican don't agree to raising taxes? >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect of an agreement that doesn't involve the tax -- remember, it's 207b8%. remember, all of those americans, too, get a tax cut into that framework on the first $250,000 of their income. >> that said the president and speaker john boehner discussed the budget by phone yesterday. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest on this game of fiscal chicken. susan, good morning to you. >> right. good morning, terrell. yeah, that phone call does raise the possibility that some serious talks could start soon, but now we learn that a lot of members of congress are heading out on a long weekend, not
-election as opposed to pre-election. the, uncertainty of the tax situation, the fiscal cliff that everyone is tired of hearing about frankly. the overburdensome regulatory environment that we're in is depressing growth, particularly for small business. and i think that's a primary distinction here as we talk about business itself because all business is not created equal. and the president's jobs council who has some wonderful folks, some friends of mind on it, wholly inefficient in my view because there is no representation from small business on that jobs council. melissa: catherine, let me ask you, what i look what happened with the case in darden, it seems like what happened to a bunch of different companies, my take at the end of the day, for sure they're not going to hire anyone and that's what we need more than anything right now. >> you're exactly right. what we need are jobs, jobs, jobs. there is so much uncertainty out there right now with what will happen with taxes. we still don't know the full impacts of obamacare. hundreds of thousands of new regulations. we need to know what is going
that we want the repeal of this tax refund the fiscal cliff. it is a tax rate that is increasingly seen as unfair. it is willy-nilly. they say that they are increasing the number of people are insured. and they say wait a second, that's not how it works. charles: the same argument that they use, by the same token, it is so odd that they singled out medical device makers and tanning salons are it is like -- what the heck? singh that we need to go after those nefarious medical devices. we need to get those guys. charles: you know, at some point, people have to understand. great innovation and breakthroughs will be delayed. it is hard to calculate how many, but there is no doubt that this will end up killing people. >> the issue is with venture capitalism, it's already pulled back. a 42% plunge in funding of medical device makers since last year. already companies like stryker announcing job layoffs. whether we see this as part of the fiscal cliff deal, we are pushing for it. charles: at some point they do need to address this. this hurts every single american in the wrong way. thanks so m
of you have -- it comprised of the broad description of the fiscal cliff whether it is the expiring tax cut provisions, the expiring tax cut extensions, and spending cuts as well. if you consider more, which of those would you consider having the biggest bang for the buck in terms of economic impact of those that we are discussing here today? >> it is a given that we will extend the current tax rates for taxpayers that make less than $250,000 on an annual basis. that is absolutely necessary. when you consider the other things that are happening -- in terms of the bang for the buck, the emergency unemployment insurance program is very effective. it is small in the grand scheme of things. cbo is estimating it would costs per calendar year about $33 million. but the economic to bitty for job growth compared to the unemployment rate would be measurably more than that -- for the economic unemployment -- economic opportunity for job growth compared to the unemployment rate would be measurably more than that. we are down to go to million people in the program. it is falling each year. i expect
the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans appears willing to concede that point, the party's position seems unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position i think the day after the campaign that says we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increase rates. >> the president says if republicans will concede the point, they could reach a deal within a week. and the presidential business leaders, if republicans drop that opposition, they could agree -- they could make a deal within a week, as we said, but, you know, as we said, the terrell?continues. >> susan, thank you so much. >>> to syria now. cbs has learned that the u.s. has discovered they have prepared chemical weapons that could potentially beused against the opposition. right now there are no indications that any of those chemicals could be fixed on military aircraft. meanwhile the obama administration says essentially countries in the middle east have offered asylum to assad and his family. as
. so what about this fiscal cliff? some would suggest and your party, as a matter of fact, said hey, let us go off the enand maybe you can cut back the tax increases on other -- edge and maybe you can cut back the tax rexes on others later, but that would at least mean -- taxes on others later, but that would at least mean people making more would pay more. >> i think it underestimates the potential impact on the economy and the very people we're trying to protect would be the most affected if that happened. so i don't think it's a good idea at all to go off the fiscal cliff. >> first of all, two questions, would you be willing to work through the christmas holiday to make sure this gets done? >> absolutely. >> second question, what about foregoing any pay until you solve this problem? >> well, the problem with that is there are 535 of us and i'm willing to solve the problem and compromise. i don't want to be penalized because of somebody else. >> fair enough. congressman connolly, we thank you for being here. i take it that means you want to keep collecting your paycheck. >> i want
..... pitchingghis plan to avoid the fiscal cliff ttrough higher ta. taxes. negotiations between the white stalled. president obama says he will not sign a bill "without" a taxxincrease on incomes over two hundred fifty thousand dollars or more. offer by republican john boehner has not only been rejected by theeadministration party. if a deal sn't made by december thirty-first, automatic tax increases and budget cuts will kiik in by the new year. sooe maryland leaders are speaking out against the fedd' decision to deny aid to hurriiane sandy victims in ur hundreds of residents along the eastern shore were devvstated whennsuperstorm sandy unleashed her fury in pctober. bbt according to the federal emergeecy management agency... tte damage wasn't enough tt warrrnt áindividualá aid. at a senatt aappopriations hearing today... senators barbara challenged fema leaders to re-think their decisson. 1:24 we in maryland have sooe of the most prosperous counttes in america but we also haae someeof the most &ppoor and that's who got hit b this storm 33 governor marrin o'malley has already vowed
the fiscal cliff, raising tax rates on the richest americans for them is still off the table. >> the revenues on the table are coming from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. >> joining me now is former vermont governor howard dean and msnbc's krystal ball. governor dean, our treasury secretary is a very carwful speaker. when asked if they're prepared to go off the cliff, his first word was absolutely. there was nothing, nothing could be more clear that this administration means what they say about getting what they want at this point. >> yeah. the only problem is -- this is a little initially going to team like heresy, the truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start. we won't get out of the problem to rai
the program. >> reporter: and, of course, going off the so-called fiscal cliff means a tax hike for just about everybody who does have a job. but today, treasury secretary timothy geithner said the president is absolutely willing to go off the cliff unless republicans agree to raise tax rates. >> there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: and on that, no progress. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> reporter: there have been no real talks between the white house and republicans for a week. but late today, diane, one possible sign of progress. the president and the speaker of the house spoke via telephone. neither side would give any details about what was said, but the stock market closed higher today with traders, at least, apparently optimistic that a deal will be reached. >> one phone call can do that. okay, thank you, jonathan karl. >>> and now, we head overseas to cairo. another day of bloodshed and chaos there. battles erupting in
the so-called fiscal cliff before scheduled tax sxhieks spending cuts go into effect. one berkeley mother was among those in washington. >> like many families, i don't have any other place to cut right now so we're here to stand up and make sure that our voices are heard. >> the group also delivered signed petitions urging congress to end the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. >>> representatives from huns of charities have descended on capitol hill in an effort to dlsh there has been talk of capping the deduction but nonprofit leaders say they're afraid if the government limits the deduction people would drastically cut back on their donation. >> that means there will be less opportunity for people to be fed. there will be less nights of care provided for those who are homeless. there will be less service for disaster situations. >> some republican pros pose limiting all itemized tax deductions, but president obama wants to increase tax rates for the wealthiest 2% of americans instead. >>> government regulators are taking action against a baby recliner company. the consumer product safety co
these fiscal cliff developments. he is here with tonight's wrap- up. >> reporter: an knit tax you are right, the president and the speaker got on the phone but as if to signal the lack of progress the house got out of town. the republican controlled house left town wednesday saying it has nothing to do. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: the president's treasury secretary said there's no room for negotiation on its demand for tax rate hikes for top income earners. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest members. >> reporter: republicans insist they can get the revenue without increasing tax rates. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who, the rich. >> reporter: but the president says that won't work. >> it is not possible for us to raise the amount of revenue that's required for a balanced package if all you are relying on is closing deduct
in the deadlock over how to avoid the rapidly approaching fiscal cliff. the president's secretary said the administration is absolutely 3r-7d to go over the cliff if republicans don't agree to tax rate increases. speaker boehner says it is now up to the president to spell out a plan that will pass. the president told business leaders that ending fights over extending the country's debt ceiling have to be a part of this deal. now part of our deal here at 9news is having gary nurenberg follow these fiscal cliff developments. he is here with tonight's wrap- up. >> reporter: an knit tax you are right, the president and the speaker got on the phone but as if to signal the lack of progress the house got out of town. the republican controlled house left town wednesday saying it has nothing to do. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: the president's treasury secretary said there's no room for negotiation on its demand for tax rate hikes for top income earners. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> a
higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender with the field. that doesn't mean they are obliged to stop this. his ow
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will push back on president obama's demand for tax hikes on the rich when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but treasury secretary timothy geithner says the white house will not give in. >> no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember it's only 2%. >> geithner adds the obama administration is, quote, absolutely prepared to go off the cliff, if necessary. joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an
over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it's worthwhile to go over the cliff, it's not the case. it is, without a doubt, a cliff. it's $600 billion. the economy cannot withstand that shock. it's slowing in anticipation. lou: $600 billion in taxes? >> spending reductions and tax increases. the economy can't handle that. without a doubt, head into recession if we're over the cliff. lou: now, are you in agreement? >> i am, carl's absolutely right, nevertheless, the markets have effectively been yawning. equity markets, go higher, corporate credit market improves, commodity prices rising, and the ten-year treasury yield is dipping to new lows. i can't figure this out. everybody seems to -- lou: i know -- >> they are in a mood, and that worries me. somebody has to be wrong, and big time. >> yawning until they don't. that
't act in good faith. but if there's no deal and the country goes over that fiscal cliff, taxes go up for everyone, mandatory spending cuts go into effect, a lot of folks are going to say where was the president? he was just re-elected. why couldn't he put together a package, a deal to avoid this disaster? >> i think this is a question of political leadership. and as that poll showed, there's no doubt that the president has the political advantage going into this. but at some point, and i think we're kind of getting close to it, the president has to be able to pivot and to say how do i turn this political advantage into a real policy accomplishment? and, wolf, i don't think you're going to do that with continued campaign style events like we just saw meeting with middle class families. okay. we get that. that occurred during the campaign. the white house has clearly gotten its message out. i think now there has to be a next step. you know, timing is everything in politics. and this is absolutely no different. what i'm getting from talking to some democrats on the hill is i think there
was trying to frame the battle oaf the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. that is good for the american economy. >> republicans believe the reason the president is going light on spending cuts and demanding the budget deal include another increase in the nation's debt ceiling is clear. >> this isn't about getting a handle on the deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he already has. >> white house aides reject republican claims that holding the debt limit over the president head is the only mechanism to get him to trim spending. >> you are going to keep the debt limit goes higher and you're spending money. you and congress. >> president signed in law, $1 trillion in spending cuts. there is a specific proposal to achieve $600 billion in savings from our entitlement programs. including our healthcare entitlement program. jay
we haven't reached any agreement on the fiscal cliff, we don't know what next year's tax structure is going to look like, how has that impacted caterpillar's plan? the deadlines of the fiscal cliff is driving us into our corners and i talk every day to our customers around this country, around the world sometimes for that matter, and in this country and they are scared to death what happens in january. nobody knows. going over the cliff is not an option we stare in the face. they'll figure out a way to get us through this in one form or fashion. there's outlandish guesses on both sides. i don't think we should risk it at all. if we do go over the downside is capex for next year, what could or should we do if everything slows down, i don't want to have to face and decide that. our outlook for 2013 is morms what 2012 is. that's the best we can see and they're three weengz away from the beginning of the year. >> i'll look forward to the day when you're in here again and can sit here for two hours and we'll run v.o. of big caterpillar equipment and talk about what's going on in china a
. >> thanks, andrea. we talk a lot about your taxes going up buzz because of the fiscal cliff but your kids could suffer too. the impact on the classroom. that's coming up at 6:07. good morning. you're watching 9news. >>> welcome back. if your kids are getting new bikes for christmas, we have a great place that you can donate one of their old ones. here's an example of one of the old ones that's getting donated. joining us is winston and juang. why did you decide to get involved with this and do this effort? >> i started this charity about seven years ago with our -- our mom and i went over to africa. i saw a lot of people walking and in particular i saw all the women walking. it really had an effect on me because it reminded me of my grandmother. i wanted to know how i could help these people. my first thought was to send them cars or to send them food but nobody has an old car to give and food is just temporary. so i thought why not give them a bike because a bike can be used anywhere. it can be a means of transportation. it was a great solution. >> you guys have a pretty big goal this ye
for the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> and the "fiscal cliff" deadline is now a day closer and still no deal between the president and republicans. political reporter grace lee is live in the newsroom with what this gridlock could cost californians. grace. >> reporter: well, liz, now we have some very real numbers that's what's at stake if we go over the "fiscal cliff." the daily democrat predicts that our state could lose $4.5 billion and lose about 200,000 jobs and with 26 days until that deadline, the painful reality is just becoming more clear. >> at 3:00, they want to start us closing on wednesday at noon. >> reporter: a social security employee for 30 years he is joining fellow federal workers across the u.s. to spread the word that the "fiscal cliff" is looming and at stake, social security benefits for millions. >> they seem to go for the people who had the least political pull, poor, disabled, people in east oakland. >> reporter: people like a social secure recipient who relies on every federal dollar. if these benefits were to be cut how would this affect you and your friends? >> oh, wow.
proposed his own plan to dodge the fiscal cliff. it includes limiting tax deductions, but no increase in marginal tax rates. and it would change eligibility for medicare and social security over the longer term. bob corker is from tennessee and joins us now from capitol hill. senator, welcome, and first of all, we heard late today that there was a phone conversation between the president and speaker boehner. have you heard anything about that? >> no, i haven't. i've been in multiple conversations today about this. but i've been in a meeting until right now for the last two hours. so i have not been aware of the phone conversation. sphwhrood well, we not hearing anyeptsther than the fact the call took place, but the fact that it took place, is that good news? >> oh, i don't know, judy. i think there are a the love discussions about what is the best way to get the type of entitlement reforms that everyone knows needs to take place, both republicans and democrats. judy, i have been in i don't know how many meetings in the last two years where there is a lot of commonality around the issu
cliff? are you expecting the economy to go over the fiscal cliff and see these taxes go high hadder and spending cuts take effect? >> my personal view is i'm still optimistic. i think the conversation has been constructive since. do we have a solution on the table yet? no. but i'm optimistic we'll get to a framework. >> why? >> there's been enough dialogue. there's been movement. everyone seems to recognize the problem. everybody realizes there has to be a revenue component, spend component, entitlement reform component. for us, the business community and all the ceos, certainty is the greatest stimulus for us. >> do you support tax rates going higher? >> me personally, as an individual, more importantly the business community, which i'm part of. we support something inclusive. if rates were higher in a videocasset vacuum, i'm not sure we'd be supportive of that. we have to make sure the consumers, those who spends a lot of the dollars, the middle class, are protected in this exercise. >> i guess the question i'm really getting at is, do you get the revenue from tax increases or fro
raising taxes and the fiscal cliff and what financial problems we're in this country, i read these numbers i want to tear my heart out. how do you feel? >> melissa, it is wse than that. in '09 he had the navy pay $424 a gallon for 20,000 gallons. that is fuel on the market you could buy for $3 a gallon. $424 a gallon. in mind, this president s had a war on our defense system. he disarmed america. he has done away with our brigade combat teams, our ships, our f-22s, c-17s, future combat systems. he uses the excuse. no, i have not reduced the budget for the defense. but wh he has done, melissa is move his green agenda into the, under the defense so we're paying for l this. now, senator mccain and i took this out. we had two chans that we made in the law to keep them from doing that. one was a section that said you can no longer use our readiness dollars to buy all this fuel and all this stuff. and then we also have had a prohibition against using defense dollars to build refineries. that can be done in the private sector. well on the floor there was an amendment, pretty much down party lines
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developments out of the region, but first tonight, urgent developments on the fiscal cliff show down. tim guy ne geithner announced of of the white house that we would, quote, absolutely go over the fiscal cliff which would trigger tax cuts and spending increases unless taxes increase on the top two percent of wage earnings. >> i want you you to understand when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> all right. it appears the very definition of the american dream is now being rewritten by president barack obama. now, today our commander-in-chief publicly said he's not going to play games with the fiscal cliff, but that is just not reality. right now the president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken and this is with your paycheck and the american dream. meanwhile, the republicans have allowed themselves to get caught in a circular firing squad. they're negotiat
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